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===Blind Alleys=== | ===Blind Alleys=== | ||
[[SSC/Stability/n1PolytropeLAWE/Pt3# | ====Reminder==== | ||
< | From a [[SSC/Stability/n1PolytropeLAWE/Pt3#Second_Attempt|separate discussion]], we have demonstrated that the LAWE relevant to the envelope is, | ||
<math>~ | |||
</ | <table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | ||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>~0</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>~=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math>~ | |||
\frac{d^2x}{d\eta^2} + \biggl\{ 4 - \biggl[ \frac{2 \eta}{\phi} \biggl(- \frac{d\phi}{d\eta} \biggr) \biggr] \biggr\}\frac{1}{\eta} \cdot \frac{dx}{d\eta} | |||
+ \frac{1}{2\pi \theta_i^5 \phi} \biggl( \frac{\mu_e}{\mu_c} \biggr)^{-1} \biggl\{ \frac{2\pi \sigma_c^2}{3\gamma_\mathrm{g}} \biggr\} x | |||
~-~ \alpha_e \biggl[ \frac{2\eta}{\phi} \biggl(- \frac{d\phi}{d\eta} \biggr) \biggr] \frac{x}{\eta^2} \, . | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
If we assume that, <math>~\alpha_e = (3 - 4/2) = 1</math> and <math>~\sigma_c^2 = 0</math>, then the relevant envelope LAWE is, | |||
<table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | <table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td align="right"> | <td align="right"> | ||
<math>~ | <math>~0</math> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td align="center"> | <td align="center"> | ||
<math>~=</math> | <math>~=</math> | ||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | <td align="left"> | ||
<math>~ | <math>~ | ||
- \ | \frac{d^2x}{d\eta^2} + \biggl\{ 4 -2Q \biggr\}\frac{1}{\eta} \cdot \frac{dx}{d\eta} | ||
~-~ \biggl[ 2 Q \biggr] \frac{x}{\eta^2} \, , | |||
</math> | </math> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
</table> | </table> | ||
[[SSC/Stability/n1PolytropeLAWE/Pt3#Consider|we have derived]] the following, | where, | ||
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<math>~ | |||
Q \equiv - \frac{d \ln \phi}{ d\ln \eta} | |||
= \biggl[1- \eta\cot(\eta-B) \biggr] = \biggl[1 + \eta\cot(B - \eta) \biggr]\, . | |||
</math> | |||
</div> | |||
Also separately, [[SSC/Stability/n1PolytropeLAWE/Pt3#Consider|we have derived]] the following, | |||
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====Third Try==== | ====Third Try==== | ||
Note that, | |||
<div align="center"> | |||
<math>~ | |||
Q \equiv - \frac{d \ln \phi}{ d\ln \eta} | |||
= \biggl[1- \eta\cot(\eta-B) \biggr] = \biggl[1 + \eta\cot(B - \eta) \biggr]\, , | |||
</math> | |||
</div> | |||
and that, | |||
<table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\frac{d}{d\eta}\biggl[\cot(B-\eta)\biggr]</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
+~\biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-2} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\Rightarrow ~~~ \frac{d^2}{d\eta^2}\biggl[\cot(B-\eta)\biggr]</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
+~2\biggl[\cos(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-3} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
Let's try … | |||
<table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>x = x_1 + x_2</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{b}{\eta^2} + \frac{c}{\eta} \cdot \cot(B-\eta) | |||
\, . | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
If we assume that, <math>~\alpha_e = (3 - 4/2) = 1</math> and <math>~\sigma_c^2 = 0</math>, then the relevant envelope LAWE is the <i>sum</i> of the pair of sub-LAWEs, | |||
<table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\mathrm{LAWE}_1</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{d^2x_1}{d\eta^2} + \biggl\{ 4 -2Q \biggr\}\frac{1}{\eta} \cdot \frac{dx_1}{d\eta} | |||
~-~ \biggl[ 2 Q \biggr] \frac{x_1}{\eta^2} \, ; | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\mathrm{LAWE}_2</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{d^2x_2}{d\eta^2} + \biggl\{ 4 -2Q \biggr\}\frac{1}{\eta} \cdot \frac{dx_2}{d\eta} | |||
~-~ \biggl[ 2 Q \biggr] \frac{x_2}{\eta^2} \, . | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
One at a time: | |||
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\frac{dx_1}{d\eta}</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
-\frac{2b}{\eta^3}\, ; | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\frac{d^2x_1}{d\eta^2}</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{6b}{\eta^4} \, . | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\Rightarrow ~~~\mathrm{LAWE}_1</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{6b}{\eta^4} | |||
+ \biggl\{ 4 -2Q \biggr\} \biggl[-\frac{2b}{\eta^4} \biggr] | |||
~-~ \biggl[ 2 Q \biggr] \frac{b}{\eta^4} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{1}{\eta^4}\biggl\{ | |||
6b -2b\biggl[4-2Q\biggr] | |||
~-~ \biggl[ 2b Q \biggr] | |||
\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{2b}{\eta^4}\biggl[ Q-1 \biggr] | |||
\, . | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\frac{dx_2}{d\eta} = \frac{d}{d\eta}\biggl[\frac{c}{\eta}\cdot \cot(B-\eta)\biggr]</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
-\frac{c}{\eta^2}\cdot \cot(B-\eta) | |||
+ | |||
\frac{c}{\eta}\cdot \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-2} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{c}{\eta^2}\biggl\{ -\frac{\cos(B-\eta)}{\sin(B-\eta)} | |||
+ | |||
\frac{\eta}{\sin^2(B-\eta)}\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{c}{\eta^2}\biggl\{\eta ~-~\sin(B-\eta)\cos(B-\eta) | |||
\biggr\}\biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-2} | |||
\, ; | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\frac{d^2x_2}{d\eta^2} </math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{d}{d\eta}\biggl\{ | |||
-\frac{c}{\eta^2}\cdot \cot(B-\eta) | |||
\biggr\} | |||
+ | |||
\frac{d}{d\eta}\biggl\{ | |||
\frac{c}{\eta}\cdot \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-2} | |||
\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\biggl\{ | |||
\frac{2c}{\eta^3}\cdot \cot(B-\eta) | |||
-\frac{c}{\eta^2}\cdot \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-2} | |||
\biggr\} | |||
+ | |||
\biggl\{ | |||
-\frac{c}{\eta^2}\cdot \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-2} | |||
+ \frac{2c}{\eta}\cdot \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-3}\cos(B-\eta) | |||
\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{2c}{\eta^3}\biggl\{ | |||
\cot(B-\eta) | |||
-\eta\cdot \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-2} | |||
+ | |||
\eta^2\cdot \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-3}\cos(B-\eta) | |||
\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{2c}{\eta^3}\biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-3}\biggl\{ | |||
\sin^2(B-\eta)\cos(B-\eta) | |||
-\eta\cdot \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr] | |||
+ | |||
\eta^2\cdot \cos(B-\eta) | |||
\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\Rightarrow ~~~\mathrm{LAWE}_2</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{d^2x_2}{d\eta^2} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
+ \biggl\{ 4 -2Q \biggr\}\frac{1}{\eta} \cdot \frac{dx_2}{d\eta} | |||
~-~ \biggl[ 2 Q \biggr] \frac{x_2}{\eta^2} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{2c}{\eta^3}\biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-3}\biggl\{ | |||
\sin^2(B-\eta)\cos(B-\eta) | |||
-\eta\cdot \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr] | |||
+ | |||
\eta^2\cdot \cos(B-\eta) | |||
\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
+ \biggl\{ 4 -2Q \biggr\}\cdot \frac{c}{\eta^3}\biggl\{\eta ~-~\sin(B-\eta)\cos(B-\eta) | |||
\biggr\}\biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-2} | |||
~-~ \biggl[ 2 Q \biggr] \frac{c}{\eta^3} \cdot \cot(B-\eta) | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{2c}{\eta^3}\biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-3}\biggl\{ | |||
\sin^2(B-\eta)\cos(B-\eta) | |||
-\eta\cdot \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr] | |||
+ | |||
\eta^2\cdot \cos(B-\eta) | |||
\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
+ \frac{2c}{\eta^3}\biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-3} \biggl\{ | |||
(2 -Q )\cdot \biggl[ \eta ~-~\sin(B-\eta)\cos(B-\eta) | |||
\biggr] \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr] | |||
~-~ Q \biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{3} \cot(B-\eta) | |||
\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{2c}{\eta^3}\biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-3}\biggl\{ | |||
\eta^2\cdot \cos(B-\eta) | |||
- \biggl[\sin^2(B-\eta)\cos(B-\eta)\biggr] | |||
+ | |||
(1 - Q )\cdot \biggl[\eta \cdot \sin(B-\eta) \biggr] | |||
\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
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Hence, | |||
<table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\mathrm{LAWE}_1 + \mathrm{LAWE}_2</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{2b}{\eta^4}\biggl[ Q-1 \biggr] | |||
+ | |||
\frac{2c}{\eta^3}\biggl[\sin(B-\eta)\biggr]^{-3}\biggl\{ | |||
\eta^2\cdot \cos(B-\eta) | |||
- \biggl[\sin^2(B-\eta)\cos(B-\eta)\biggr] | |||
+ | |||
(1 - Q )\cdot \biggl[\eta \cdot \sin(B-\eta) \biggr] | |||
\biggr\} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
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</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{2(b-c)}{\eta^3}\biggl[\cot(B-\eta) \biggr] | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
====Fourth Try==== | |||
Try adding an additional term that was discussed above under "First Try", namely, | |||
<table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>x_3</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{d}{\eta} | |||
\, , | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
in which case, | |||
<table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math> | |||
\mathrm{LAWE}_{3} | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
-\frac{2d}{\eta^3} \, , | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
and, | |||
<table border="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td align="right"> | |||
<math>\mathrm{LAWE}_{1} + \mathrm{LAWE}_{2} + \mathrm{LAWE}_{3}</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="center"> | |||
<math>=</math> | |||
</td> | |||
<td align="left"> | |||
<math> | |||
\frac{2}{\eta^3}\biggl[(b-c)\cot(B-\eta) - d \biggr] | |||
\, . | |||
</math> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
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Latest revision as of 17:56, 12 January 2026
Main Sequence to Red Giant to Planetary Nebula (Part 2)[edit]
Part I: Background & Objective
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Foundation[edit]
In an accompanying discussion, we derived the so-called,
whose solution gives eigenfunctions that describe various radial modes of oscillation in spherically symmetric, self-gravitating fluid configurations.
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Introducing the dimensionless frequency-squared, , we can rewrite this LAWE as,
where, as a reminder, . Now, for our bipolytrope, we have found it useful to adopt the following four dimensionless variables:
This means that,
Making these substitutions, the LAWE can be rewritten as,
then, multiplying through by allows us to everywhere switch from to , namely,
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In shorthand, we can rewrite this equation in the form,
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where,
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Specific Case of (nc, ne) = (5,1)[edit]
Drawing from our "Table 2" profiles, let's evaluate and for the two separate regions of bipolytrope model.
The nc = 5 Core[edit]
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Hence, the LAWE becomes,
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Multiplying through by gives,
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Let's compare this with the equivalent expression presented separately, namely, The primary E-type solution for n = 5 polytropes states that,
Hence, the LAWE may be written as,
Versus above,
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If we set and we set , this becomes,
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Next, try the solution, and :
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The ne = 1 Envelope[edit]
Throughout the envelope we have,
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Hence,
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Let's compare this with the equivalent expression presented separately, namely, The equilibrium, off-center equilibrium solution for n = 1 polytropes states that,
Hence, the LAWE may be written as,
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Blind Alleys[edit]
Reminder[edit]
From a separate discussion, we have demonstrated that the LAWE relevant to the envelope is,
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If we assume that, and , then the relevant envelope LAWE is,
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where,
Also separately, we have derived the following,
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First Try[edit]
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We see that the complexity of the LAWE reduces substantially if we set ; specifically, this choice gives,
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Close, but no cigar!
Second Try[edit]
Next, let's set but let's leave unspecified:
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The first term goes to zero if we set ; then, in order for the second term to go to zero, we need …
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This means that the envelope is incompressible.
Third Try[edit]
Note that,
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Fourth Try[edit]
Try adding an additional term that was discussed above under "First Try", namely,
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