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		<title>Joel2: Created page with &quot;__FORCETOC__ &lt;!-- will force the creation of a Table of Contents --&gt; &lt;!-- __NOTOC__ will force TOC off --&gt; =Looking Outward, From Inside a Black Hole=  [Written by J. E. Tohline, early morning of 13 October 2017] &amp;nbsp;The relationship between the mass, &lt;math&gt;~M&lt;/math&gt;, and radius, &lt;math&gt;~R&lt;/math&gt;, of a black hole is, &lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt; &lt;table border=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;   &lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt; &lt;math&gt;~\frac{2GM}{c^2 R}&lt;/math&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align=&quot;cent...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;__FORCETOC__ &amp;lt;!-- will force the creation of a Table of Contents --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!-- __NOTOC__ will force TOC off --&amp;gt; =Looking Outward, From Inside a Black Hole=  [Written by J. E. Tohline, early morning of 13 October 2017]  The relationship between the mass, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~M&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, and radius, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~R&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, of a black hole is, &amp;lt;div align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;table border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;5&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;tr&amp;gt;   &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;right&amp;quot;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~\frac{2GM}{c^2 R}&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;   &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;   &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;cent...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;__FORCETOC__ &amp;lt;!-- will force the creation of a Table of Contents --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- __NOTOC__ will force TOC off --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=Looking Outward, From Inside a Black Hole=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[Written by J. E. Tohline, early morning of 13 October 2017] &amp;amp;nbsp;The relationship between the mass, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~M&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, and radius, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~R&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, of a black hole is,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;table border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;5&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;right&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~\frac{2GM}{c^2 R}&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~=&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~1 \, .&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/table&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The mean density of matter inside a black hole of mass &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~M&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is, therefore,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;table border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;5&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;right&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~\bar\rho&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~=&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~ &lt;br /&gt;
\frac{3M}{4\pi R^3} = &lt;br /&gt;
\frac{3M}{4\pi} \biggl[ \frac{2GM}{c^2}\biggr]^{-3} =&lt;br /&gt;
\frac{3c^6}{2^5\pi G^3 M^2} &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;right&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~\approx&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~ &lt;br /&gt;
\biggl[\frac{(3 \times 10^{10})^6}{2^5 (\tfrac{2}{3}\times 10^{-7})^3 (2\times 10^{33})^2 M_\odot^2}\biggr] ~\mathrm{g}~\mathrm{cm}^{-3}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;right&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~\approx&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~ &lt;br /&gt;
\biggl[\frac{3^{6+3} \times 10^{60}}{2^{10} (10^{66-21}) M_\odot^2}\biggr] ~\mathrm{g}~\mathrm{cm}^{-3}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;right&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~\approx&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~ &lt;br /&gt;
\biggl[\frac{3^{9} \times 10^{60}}{2^{10} (10^{45}) M_\odot^2}\biggr] ~\mathrm{g}~\mathrm{cm}^{-3}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;right&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~\approx&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;td align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~ &lt;br /&gt;
\biggl[\frac{2 \times 10^{16}}{M_\odot^2}\biggr] ~\mathrm{g}~\mathrm{cm}^{-3} \, .&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/table&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
We are accustomed to imagining that the interior of a black hole (BH) must be an exotic environment because a one solar-mass BH has a mean density that is on the order of, but larger than, the density of nuclear matter.  From the above expression, however, we see that a &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~10^9 M_\odot&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; BH has a mean density that is less than that of water (1 gm/cm&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;3&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;).  And the mean density of a BH having the mass of the entire universe must be very small indeed.  This leads us to the following list of questions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Enumerated Questions==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ol&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Can we construct a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Newtonian&amp;#039;&amp;#039; structure out of normal matter that has a mass of, say, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;~10^9 M_\odot&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; whose equilibrium radius is much less than the radius of the BH horizon associated with that object?  Does it necessarily have a mean temperature whose associated sound speed is super-relativistic?&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;li&amp;gt;Who else in the published literature has explored questions along these lines?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ol&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=See Also=&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1917RSPSA..93..148R Lord Rayleigh (1917, Proc. Royal Society of London. Series A, 93, 148-154)] &amp;amp;#8212; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;On the Dynamics of Revolving Fluids&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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